I picked this story specifically to get my buddy Del Simmons, who went all Helter Skelter on me in the comments of my last Victimless Crime File post, to explain to me how long term drug use doesn’t make people retarded. Word on the virtual street is that Steven Joseph Christopher liked the weed which I would suggests explains why he’d post this load of crap on conspiracy mongering website Alien-Earth.org:
ok we have 6 days until my Presidential Assasination.
Yes, I have decided I will assasinate Barack Obama. It’s really nothing personal about the man. He speaks well, has a loving although controlling wife and two cute daughters. But I know it’s for the country’s own good that I do this. And I’m not racist either, my family is a little, but isn’t all Italian and european families? I mean how many times have you heard the word nigger in the comforts of your home? I have a lot, and it really bothered me and I would confront them about it. No, it’s not because I’m racist that I will kill Barack, it’s because I can no longer allow the Jewish parasites to bully their way into making the American people submit to their evil ways. How many of you Obama supporters are now disappointed after some of his arm-twisted Jewish appointee decisions??? Make’s you think he’s not really in charge(which he isn’t). No it’s the same old, same old filthy muther-fucking kikes who are poisoning America, who have murdered thousands of innocent lives on 9-11-01, and are thinking that they are going to get away with it again.
Barack, I view more as a sacrificial lamb, but the sacrifice MUST take place. He had good intentions, but like the Steve Taylor song goes, “a politician next door, swore, he’d set the Washington arena on fire, thinks he’ll gladiate them, but they’re gonna make him a liar.”
So, I’m stuck here in Mississippi, and I’ll need bus fare or some way of getting to Washington. I don’t own a gun, so maybe someone can give me one. And I’ll need a leak in the secret service to get a close up shot, somewhere close to the podium, since I’ve never fired a gun, so I need to get an easy shot off. Wattdysay fellas? Any help?
You all know we can’t live with the jewscum anylonger, dont cha? You got a better solution? I’m all ears.
Stevie
One of my points to Del Simmons is that the drug culture is dangerous and would be even if drugs were legalized. The drug culture has fueled the growth of conspiracy theories and the attendant brain-eating businesses that have sprung up around them. Alien-Earth.org is one of those businesses but luckily someone there was sane enough to alert someone to Christopher’s escalating behavior. Almost as if the people running the site aren’t kooks at all…
But here is where many would claim I have no definitive evidence of this guy being a stoner aside from those anonymous sources we bloggers are supposed to eschew. I will put forward that I know the glassyeyed look of a high person when I see one:
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Still don’t think he’s a stoner?
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Or you can check out his YouTube channel and decide for yourself. Or ask his “friends” from Alien-Earth.org if he liked the weed.
Or his new friend Michael Crook, the inbred mutant responsible for the very worst of Internet douchebaggery (like the now defunct Forsake our Troops site and this charming YouTube video claiming all women that get raped actually asked for it) who has set up yet another hoax site where he claims to be raising money for Christopher’s bail. He also is alleged to be making death threats against the person he suspects ratted Stevie out to the Secret Service. He in fact publishes a random person’s home address and notes it would be a good thing for “God should deliver her into a brother’s hand before she has a chance to testify.” Though I can’t confirm this I’ve seen references to Crook that imply he isn’t exactly straight edge.
Hmmm. Crook knows very little about Christopher which is clear in that he makes an appeal on behalf of White Supremacism when Christopher was very clear about not being anti-Black. It’s almost as if Crook, who is known for cashing in on Internet scams, sees the conspiracy types as marks for some reason. And therein, my good Mr. Simmons, is the second way in which the drug culture creates crime, or at least a pool of victims for crime. Drug users are the frequent targets of scams because unlike sober people they fall for them. If you don’t believe that, then go to a bar and see which girls go home with the ugly guys.
Or donate money to Crook’s site and see if it ever gets to Stevie.
So what do we have here? A stoner wasting Secret Service resources and ruining his life, a degenerate milking other dopers to pay for his own habits and an entire website full of basement dwellers convinced that Steven Christopher’s death threats were caused by, I kid you not, government mind control programs who are using this as a pretext to crack down on Internet free speech. But these people would have all been the same sans drug use and legalized drugs would make this situation better according to my honorable friend Del Simmons.
I don’t buy it.
I happen to like like Del Simmons and I respect his view but he, and anyone else who thinks drug use and drug users are harmless, is wrong. Whether it be from some Libertarian impulse or a lack of exposure to the drug culture there are many who claim that getting high is a “victimless crime” but it isn’t. Steven Christopher, who has a history of domestic violence by the way, proves that the drug culture produces people who aren’t capable of living productive lives that don’t financially and criminally burden the rest of us.
If drugs were legal that would not change.
h/t Trench
Once again you put words in my mouth, Rob. I have never said drugs are harmless. I have never said that legalizing drugs will stop bad people from doing bad things.
I said that just because some bad people do drugs doesn’t mean that all people who do drugs are bad and deserve to be thrown in jail. That is my only point and I still stand by it.
And I don’t appreciate you posting my name all over your blog entry while attributing positions to me which I have NEVER taken!! Find one place where I have ever said that “drug use and drug users are harmless”. I have stated multiple times in the comments of your own posts that I DO NOT think drug use is harmless. I think it is bad for you, period.
But I do say that a responsible adult getting a buzz in the privacy of their own home is victimless and that we, as a society, would do more harm than good to arrest that person and throw them in jail. If they are abusing or neglecting their kids, well that is already illegal. If they are driving while impaired, that is already illegal as well. And those crimes are worthy of arrest and incarceration.
But the stoner who sites home on a Friday night, catches a buzz, watches a movie and goes to bed, only to get up and go to work the next day? Don’t put them in jail for that. That is what prohibition is all about. And it is wrong.
You think I have a Libertarian streak? I would say libertarian with a little L because I have not been a member of the Libertarian Party since shortly after 9-11 when the Party leadership lost their freaking minds. But as for little L libertarian, guilty as charged. Libertarianism, to me, means that you let me live my life and I let you live yours. You take responsibility for your life, and I take responsibility for mine. So long as I’m not hurting you and you’re not hurting me, we shouldn’t be getting in each others business. I think that is a good way to live.
And as for someone who hasn’t been exposed to much, if you really think that smoking pot makes people “retarded”, then you’re even more sheltered than I thought, Rob! Sheez!
Take a chill pill and stop putting words in my mouth, would ya?
Now that’s just stupid. Reminds me of how the Homo-Fascist Bash Back group posts their deeds online. Law enforcement would certainly catch up to you sooner or later.
I suggest you get your facts straight.
Do some research before making slanderous accusations like you did. Just because you’re an uptight Jew lover doesn’t mean everyone is.
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Yo clearly don’t know what slander is. And you’re the one without facts on this story, and who will no doubt be going to jail when that woman you threatened on you site rats you to the cops.
But I’m curious as to where I’m wrong Crook. You’re physical characteristics (asymmetrical features etc) do suggest inbreeding and I you are well known for being erratic, and trolling. Where’s the slander? I’ll be glad to go to court with you.
Because people research events in history and life, they’re basement dwellers? Sure, credulous threads are posted on websites daily, no denial there. Most on the conspiracy sites are debunkers, looking objectivly for the truth.
You were given plenty of links to the government sites including DoD to declassified documents. It’s these basement dwellers who bring light to subjects most would never care to see. And not to mention- those basement dwellers turned him in, if it weren’t for them, who knows…
There’s a definate difference in someone doing research than a total NutJob who found that site (and was banned from that site a few times).
Sadly, no-one on earth may escape these types like Steve, it’s unfortunatle he’s the comparison to others on the site. He seen an open public forum and took advantage of such.
You failed to mention most of the people on the site agree with Drug Laws aside of medical usage and Hemp for taxation / production. The thread you linked to clearly shows they really don’t think mkultra did it….. You ran with that.
You mentioned you may rip the site a new one in the article, you failed to say you would use posts out of context and assert your assumption. Clearly they think he did it because he’s a lunatic.
It should also be noted, both Mike and Steve were not regular posters on that site. They both have their own sites.
The people agreeing that we need drug laws actually came after this post was published, but since you mention it almost all also admitted to using drugs in the past.
The fact that the question was even asked about MKULTRA says something about the intersection of the drug and conspiracy culture doesn’t it?
No, the fact that is was asked only implies the person who asked is uninformed to mkultra and probably many other things. Many admitted smoking a few joints in college/high school yes. Many presidents have admitted it too. ; ) (bill clinton as he’s freshest on my mind) http://www.google.com
I’m not here to grief you, please don’t think I am. I don’t wish to argue morals of drug usage, I too think it should remain illegal. Nor am I the owner / affiliated with the site, just a poster there from time to time. : )
I have read through your site, I’ve enjoyed it and also book marked it for future reading. Thanks!
Out of curiousity, I searched around on google for different search strings. Obama admitted to trying marijuana and cocaine. Vice President Gore, Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, and Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas- marijuana. US Court of Appeals Judge Douglas Ginsburg – marijuana.
The proverbial list is endless and I’m actually a little shocked to how many public leaders had admitted it. Sources range from washington post to latimes and more. Too many to post actually. “public leaders that admitted marijuana” return several articles / interviews.
It’s safe to say- the conspiracy sites and drugs link is faulty. A growing drug problem is the problem. When you have soo many using, you will find them anywhere you go.
Geesh, crazy stuff. : (
I don’t think that’s safe to say at all. I think the drug culture is fueling the growth of conspiracy theories.
That someone “tried” drugs isn’t the issue, it’s whether or not people did so (or continue to do so) on a regular basis.
Anything is possible, no doubts there! I’ve done a some of research in neuro-receptor / transmitters. One fact that’s true with all human brains (unless damaged obviously, or a growth/health issue etc.) is that when they’re firing off in the same pattern for a period of time (unsure of the length, need more research) those receptors and transmitters will become accustomed to that pattern. Thus making it harder to stop that. So in theory, if someone that is high say everyday for a long time, the brain would false-fire once in a while back to that transmitter and recptor. (healing over time)
I would think the type of drug would stimulate different area, unsure if it’s 100% dopamine or something else gives them the feeling. I’m not all that educated in drugs or the chemical composition of.
You definitely have my ‘curious’ bug going in research overload now. I will look in to the chemical reaction, electrical patterns stimulated by different substances over the next couple of days. If you’re interested in what I find, I will post it here. Unsure if you’re wanting people to just chat around. (haven’t seen forums)
I believe the Frontal Lobe is responsible for discerning right from wrong. I will start there and with the areas of brain that are effected while under the influence.
(sorry for the mini book)
Nothing seems to be easier than seeing someone whom you can help but not helping.
I suggest we start giving it a try. Give love to the ones that need it.
God will appreciate it.
You may have Red Alerts confused with your local church, but that’s a sweet sentiment I’m sure.
Gosh, Rob. He’s such a hottie. Stoners are SUCH turn ons to we women who know we can do so much better.
I’m the only one in this world. Can please someone join me in this life? Or maybe death…
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