If only Marijuana was legalized emotionally stunted drug users like Andy Dick wouldn’t traumatize teens by trying to pull their clothes off while molesting them. Or at least that’s the theory.
From Fox:
Comedian Andy Dick was arrested Wednesday morning in Murrieta, Calif., on suspicion of drug possession and sexual battery, TMZ reports.
An employee in Dick’s manager’s office told FOXNews.com that Dick’s manager would respond later when he had more information.
Cops arrested Dick, 42, just before 2 a.m. in the parking lot near a Buffalo Wild Wings restaurant, according to TMZ.
Cops told TMZ they responded to a report of a person urinating in the parking lot outside of Buffalo Wild Wings, causing a disturbance.
Once there, they stopped a van and found Dick in the passenger seat. He was arrested for allegedly groping a 17-year-old girl’s breasts and pulling her top down.
When he was searched, cops say they found marijuana and Xanax.
So can anyone explain to me how legalization would have stopped this sexual battery?
Well, I agree that Andy is a dick.. But why must you insist on making excuses for him? Amazingly, millions of Americans smoke pot regularly and don’t molest anyone! I know you will find that hard to believe, but it is true.
Don’t let him or anyone else blame his behavior on pot smoking. It simply makes no sense. He is a scum bag, plain and simple, whether he’s smoking pot or not.
And as for legalizing drugs stopping molestations, what a straw man argument! Who ever said such a thing? Drug use doesn’t cause molestations, whether it is legal or not, so why would legalization of marijuana use have any impacts on child molestation at all?
One last note.. Wouldn’t it be nice if all the billions we spend on trying to stop marijuana smoking could be redirected to stopping child molesters instead? I’d have to guess that might do some good. Not because making drugs legal causes anyone to molest less often, but because our fine law enforcement officers are a very valuable and very finite resource.
Personally, I’d rather see our law enforcement officers freed up to focus on molesters, murderers and thiefs instead of worrying about someone who is smoking pot but not molesting anyone. Does that make smoking pot a good idea? Of course not. But it does recognize the basic facts that we can only afford a limited amount of police officers and we need to keep them focused on stopping and solving the most heinous crimes, like child molestation.
Millions of people drink and don’t kill people in car accidents or beat their wives but we have no problem admitting drinking plays a part in many automobile fatalities and domestic abuse. We have no trouble admitting that drunks are unpleasant, often abusive and sometimes very dangerous.
Yet so many people like yourself find it abhorrent to admit that drug use often plays a part in bad decisions people make, that getting high inhibits a person’s ability to control their impulses and lowers inhibitions even though that’s exactly why people get high in the first place.
Drug habits are horrible things to watch, even if the habit is “only” smoking pot, and often people who get high on a regular basis lose control of their lives. That even happens to pot smokers. I’ve stated my opinion before about drug legality but I’m not naive enough to think legalization would reduce crime.
In fact legalization will probably lead to an up tick in some crimes in the short run, but as addicts die off crime will go back down and the next generation will see drug use for what it is, immature, seedy and degrading.
People like Andy Dick are responsible for their own actions, but to deny that Dick would have kept his hands to himself if he wasn’t high is denial at it’s most basic. If you had a daughter, and her boyfriend was the “innocent” pot smoker you theorize makes up the majority of users, would you let him drive her around? Stay out all night?
Or would you tell her that getting high, and hanging around people who are high, doesn’t end well ultimately. That’s what Red Alerts preaches, common sense from experience.
Millions of people drink and don’t kill people in car accidents or beat their wives but we have no problem admitting drinking plays a part in many automobile fatalities and domestic abuse. I agree 100%. But the you’re not here saying that having a beer is causing traffic accidents either.. Or that NOT having a beer will keep you from having an accident, which is what you’re saying about Dick here..
People like Andy Dick are responsible for their own actions, but to deny that Dick would have kept his hands to himself if he wasn’t high is denial at it’s most basic.
No offense, but that makes no sense at all. How can you say that Dick would have kept his hands to himself if he weren’t high? You act like smoking pot immediately causes people to molest others. You don’t know what Dick would have done. None of us do. He;s obviously a molester, whether he’s high or not!
If you had a daughter, and her boyfriend was the “innocent†pot smoker you theorize makes up the majority of users, would you let him drive her around? Stay out all night?
Of course not. I wouldn’t allow my daughter to date a pot head. But that doesn’t mean that I’m convinced, as you seem to be, that putting every person who smokes pot in jail as if they were about to molest someone makes sense either.
I only take issue with your basic premise that smoking pot is what causes molestation. Hence, your constant title of “Victimless Crime” as a sarcastic reference to these stories..
Smoking pot, by itself, is a victimless crime.. Smoking pot while you:
1. Molest people
2. Abandon your children
3. Steal from others
4. Break any other law
is obviously not good, but those things are already against the law! And they should be, whether you are smoking pot or not! Smoking pot does not cause a person to do these terrible things, and when you pretend that it does, I think you lessen the likelyhood that people will be held accountable for their actions. I can hear the criminal advocates now.. “It wasn’t his fault.. he got high and couldn’t control himself”
Let’s not pretend that smoking pot CAUSES these things, because the simple fact that literally millions smoke pot without doing any of those things is proof positive that smoking pot does not cause these things to happen. Some people are just bad people, whether they smoke pot or not, and I’d rather have our law enforcement officers focussed on those people than on people who JUST choose to smoke pot while not engaging in any of these other vile acts. Unfortunately our current legal structure does not allow this and I think that has a lot to do with an attitude like you show in these “Victimless Crimes” posts.
I will agree with you that some people who smoke pot engage in other risky behaviors. Some of those other risky behaviors are likely damaging to others around them and/or illegal, but I do think you sometime attribute causation where it is very much misplaced, as in your statement above that Dick would not have molested had he not been high. It simply isn’t factual for you to present your case like that.
I think you and I probably agree on a LOT of things, and I very much enjoy reading your blog. Most of your posts I agree with a lot, but you just seem to forget that there are many people who smoke pot with it damaging them or those around them in any of the ways you pretend it does. If we put every pot smoker in jail, we won’t have any room for molesters.. That is my only point.
Your assumption is that getting high, pot or not, can’t verifiable be seen as the cause of criminality but if Andy Dick was predisposed to sexual battery, why’s this the first time you’ve heard of him doing it.
I have seen and been around many pot smokers, the “harmless” ones you speak of, and the fact is it does damage them. All drug use damages people. It’s never victimless unless you consider the people users hurt along the way, including themselves, to not be victims until they’re actually raped or killed. What about the children of users? What about the people who end up supporting them? I’ve not met one pot smoker over 20, not one, who could completely support themselves, aren’t the people who fund him or her, who do the users laundry or take care of the users kids while they’re out “partying” being hurt? Aren’t they saddled with a permanent child?
Like I said before I wouldn’t have vote for prohibition, but that doesn’t mean smoking pot is harmless any more than sitting in a bar is harmless. Needing to get high (or drunk) to get through life is no way to go through life but with drugs including pot it’s worse because people DO get involved in things that they usually wouldn’t when their high. That’s the point of getting high.
In the Victimless Crime File series I cover a wide range of pot related incident to illustrate how unglamorous and dangerous getting high is. You say the crimes pot heads commit are unrelated to their drug use but I’ve blogged about child molesters using pot to lure children into sex, I’ve referenced studies that indicate at least in some cases frequent pot smoking can damage the minds of teens and we all know that pot causes paranoia.
Look, millions of people drink and don’t kill people in car accidents, but we know that drunks crashing cars when their drunk is caused by being drunk, right? Likewise it’s certainly possible the majority of pot users don’t do anything wrong aside from getting high (although my personal experience is that they all do eventually) but that doesn’t mean we can’t look at drug use honestly and see that when a person alters their thinking they do things they will regret, and that often hurt others.
I always tell people who have trouble with the idea that “just” getting high is fairly benign to head over to a local N.A. meeting and listen to people who’ve really been their. Most of them started out their lives as addicts with pot (and I’m not going to argue the gateway drug theory, addiction is more complicate than that) but listen to their stories. Smoking pot is the same, at the very least, as drinking hard liquor. If you saw a person drinking hard liquor every day, or binging once in a while, you’d be hard pressed to give them a “but he’s not hurting anyone” pass. I think we should view pot in the same way.
Your assumption is that getting high, pot or not, can’t verifiable be seen as the cause of criminality but if Andy Dick was predisposed to sexual battery, why’s this the first time you’ve heard of him doing it.
Are you trying to pretend that Andy Dick just started getting high recently and then suddenly became a molester? This is just silly! Andy Dick has been having problems with drug addiction for years, and a quick query on Google News will show you what I mean. That doesn’t mean that he wouldn’t have molested someone if he hadn’t smoked pot, and it doesn’t mean that he molested someone because he smoked pot either.
I’ve not met one pot smoker over 20, not one, who could completely support themselves, aren’t the people who fund him or her, who do the users laundry or take care of the users kids while they’re out “partying†being hurt?
Oh please.. I’ve met plenty of occasional pot smokers who are some of the most successful and properly grounded people I know and I’ve met plenty of them who’s family’s would be much more damaged by their arrest and incarceration than they ever would be by their occasional drug use.
You’re speaking in broad generalities here and not recognizing the fact that there are literally millions of occasional pot smokers in this nation that are otherwise productive members of society who are good spouses, good employees and good parents. It’s just a fact.
You say the crimes pot heads commit are unrelated to their drug use but I’ve blogged about child molesters using pot to lure children into sex, I’ve referenced studies that indicate at least in some cases frequent pot smoking can damage the minds of teens and we all know that pot causes paranoia.
Molesters use toys and candy to lure children into sex as well, so what is your point? I know people who have smoked pot for years (not in excess mind you, but occasionally and socially) who are wonderful parents and perfectly well adjusted and responsible adults.
Look, I have never said that smoking pot was a good idea, but just stop trying to pretend like prohibition is more of a positive overall than a bad. When an otherwise law abiding pot smoker is thrown in jail, more damage is done to our society than when that person lights a joint in the privacy of their own home.
Of course addiction is a bad thing. Of course neglecting your children is terrible. Of course driving a vehicle while impaired is a terrible thing. All of those things will and should remain illegal. But the occasional use of marijuana by adults in the privacy of their own homes is a “crime” that our resources should not be wasted on preventing, in my opinion.
Let’s go after those people that drive impaired. Let’s go after those people who molest. Let’s go after those who kill and rob from others instead of wasting our limited resources on adults who choose to responsibly use marijuana in a way that doesn’t involve all of these terrible things that you ascribe to marijuana use. That is all I’m saying.
I always tell people who have trouble with the idea that “just†getting high is fairly benign to head over to a local N.A. meeting and listen to people who’ve really been their.
Another straw man.. Those people obviously let their recreational use become an addiction that was causing harm to them and those around them. That is not the user I’m talking about. Do you want alcohol to be illegal as well? There are many people who let alcohol take over their lives. How about cigarettes? What about fatty foods? When parents let themselves get morbidly obese, they have a higher likelihood that they can’t properly take care of their children. They can’t go out and play soccer with their kids in the yard. Does that mean that everyone who eats a cheeseburger is a bad parent? Of course not.. the cheeseburger didn’t cause the person to get obese. Years of poor decisions about health and nutrition did. And the same is true of Andy Dick’s molestation. Smoking pot didn’t make him do it. He made a conscious decision to molest someone and that is his responsibility. Don’t excuse his behavior by pretending that he lost all control of himself when he puffed on a joint.
Smoking pot is the same, at the very least, as drinking hard liquor. If you saw a person drinking hard liquor every day, or binging once in a while, you’d be hard pressed to give them a “but he’s not hurting anyone†pass. I think we should view pot in the same way.
I agree 100%. I don’t think that doing any of these things every day, to excess as you describe, is healthy or good for anyone, or their families. But let’s not pretend that every pot user smokes every day. Let’s not pretend that anyone who has a beer on Friday night is drinking beer every day to excess. Those are two different patterns of behavior you are describing and one I would call victimless and one I would not.
Let’s hold people responsible when they choose to allow substance abuse to develop into something damaging. Let’s not pretend that pot is so impairing that people who smoke some instantly loose control and can’t help acting on their urges. That is what you are saying about Andy Dick and it simply isn’t true.
Most people who have a drink in a social setting don’t drink hard liquor every day. I think we can agree that statement is true. And I think that if having that drink in a social setting were against the law, that would be wrong. The same can be said, in my opinion about smoking pot.
Most people who might occasionally smoke pot in a social setting are not going to go overboard and start molesting people or neglecting their children, but that occasional joint is a crime, and in my opinion it is a victimless one.
None of these are straw man arguments. Look, drug users commit crimes, are you really saying that Dick’s life would be the same if he was sober? Are you really saying that pot had nothing to do with a downward spiral that led to him not having worked in years, getting his ass kicked in a men’s room by Wesley Snipes and now attempting to pull a girls top off in public had nothing to do with getting high?
What pray tell do people get high for? They do so to lower their inhibitions and do what they otherwise wouldn’t do sober. You’ve met pot smokers who are as productive as people that are sober? Bullshit. I guess if by productive you mean not getting arrested, but I’ve met pot smokers who’ve HAD SEX WITH PEOPLE just to get a free dime bag. I’ve met pot smokers who got the clap while they were high, girls who got raped hanging out with “peaceful” pot smokers, people stuck in dead end jobs (like bartending, stripping and working the overnight in a NJ Dunkin’ Donuts) who were there because they refused to stop spending what little money they had on getting high.
You think there are users who are in control of their lives, the 60% divorce rate and exploding STD rates among Boomers says different. But more importantly I and everyone who’s clean and sober has heard that same line and we’ve seen that same show. Every person who wants to get high, which you know always means that that person has other issues in their lives they should be dealing with, puts on a good show about how together they are-until they need a shot of penicillin or an abortion or bail money. I don’t minimize people’s drug use because I’ve seen people’s lives destroyed by it, including pot.
If you want to compare getting high to eating cheeseburger (now that’s a straw man) fine, but don’t pretend that pot doesn’t impair people. If pot is so mild let’s start a petition to allow people to drive while smoking it, or for doctors to be allowed to operate after smoking up to “calm their nerves” or whatever.
Or how about this; Think about the worst thing you’ve ever done while high or drunk, that thing you don’t tell anyone about because you’re too ashamed, and then tell me you’d have done it sober.
Normally, I’d berate your complete ignorance and stupidity as it pertains to marijuana. But, so many people have already PROVEN your stupidity. There’s nothing more that i can do other than show my support for legalization. If you’d like to expand your limited knowledge, I could introduce you to people well over 20, employed, and doing quite well.
-Paralegal that works for one of the top 10 law firms in the nation clearing 80k/yr
-Upscale clothing business owner pays 2k/month for her Manhattan apartment
-Social Worker just accepted a job making 52k/yr
-IT specialist moving to Cali from NYC where he was payin 1200+ rent
-Bank Executive in Cali makes 100k+
And the list goes on buddy. Open your eyes. Marijuana smokers are doing great!
A) You don’t know anyone successful.
B) As a 28 year old adult you should be able to live your life without getting high, your life should be filled with other things like volunteering, a relationship etc.
C) I notice you don’t make mention of how well you’re doing. That’s called a tell. You’re second tell is to make up a D&D like collection of characters you “know” to prove a point. The average salary nation wide for a paralegal by the way is about $33,000 and top law firms max them out between $50-60000, a lot of people in NYC pay over 2k a month to live there and I’ll bet your IT executive will be unemployed within five years.
D) Social workers have a Union that protects them (my mother is one) and I would think coming form a NYC where every month there’s a dead child whose social worker didn’t bother to check on them you’d want those workers to be clean and sober.
NYC is full of rich people from rich families who spend their money on drugs while their parents continue to fund their lifestyles well into their 40s. But be that as it may, who said pot smokers can get jobs in NYC? What I said is that, in this case, drug abuse victimized people around Andy Dick who should grow up and stop acting like a teen.
What I’ve shown in this category is pot smokers killing people in car crashes, long-term user’s paranoia causing them to hurt others, children being abused and neglected by users and in essence a bunch of crimes that would have happened regardless of pots legal status. That’s my point, that the idea that crime would go down if pot was legal is a crock based on the disingenuous idea that the only crime related to getting high is possession.
But I won’t waste your time, being so successful and all. I’m sure you have a whole office to run or a stock fund to manage.
So let’s blame Andy the Dick’s bad behavior on marijuana. Sounds good to me. Get real. I just wonder how many times he’s molested and not gotten caught. I agree that smoking marijuana is not a good thing. Neither is drinking alchohol. At least marijuana is not bodily addictive. And before you roll your eyes at that statement, I say that with authority. 25 years ago, I smoked pot every day. Now I am a person who is an addictive personality. If something is addictive, I can get hooked on it. I got high after work every day for about 6 months. One day, I had a choice. Buy cigarettes or buy pot. I wanted to get high. I *needed* cigarettes. So the *choice* was simple. I bought my cigarettes. Sure, I was probably menatlly dependant. I’m sure I was, but I didn’t have physical withdrawl. Now If I had drank even one glass of wine a day for six months, I’d have been then and would stil be now and alcoholic. A molester is going to molest whether he smokes pot, drinks alcohol, does LSD or stays sober. With a molester, molesting is not what they do, it’s what they are. And no I don’t get high now. Nor do I drink. It’s a waste of money. But if people want to waste their money, who are we to tell them they can’t if they aren’t physically hurting someone else. And iff they want to hurt themselves, it is the height of arrogance to *forbid* them to do so once they become an adult. If they hurt others, then they need to be prosecuted, regardless if they are sober or inebriated and regardless of the substance they on which they are intoxicated.
Blah Blah. I smoked clove cigarettes for about five years then quit when someone told me it was addictive and I wanted to prove them wrong. Sorry Carl but smokes are only addictive in that most people use them as coping mechanisms for stress. Pot is similar, it’s a crutch for immature people to use to make themselves feel better.
However, to suggest that pot doesn’t make people make bad decisions (as does alcohol or any drug) is to ignore the main reason people get high or drunk in the first place, and that’s to lose control, to lower there natural inhibitions.
When it comes to drug use and the negative effects it has on people’s lives it is simply false to assert that a marijuana doesn’t change the way people process information and lead many to do things they would have otherwise avoided doing. It is false to claim people high on pot act the same as when they are sober. It is an enabling behavior to pretend smoking pot is in some way better than being high on some other drug, including alcohol.
In addiction recovery cigarettes, though terrible for you, have helped many people cope with the two things they lose when they are in recovery, their emotional crutches and their scumbag friends. I picked up smoking shortly after I decided to stop drinking, at which point my social calender became much more open since few people want who use want to be around a sober person. I don’t recommend smoking to people, but if the choice is between smoking cigarettes or being high I prefer people to smoke.
Now society does have a right to make demands on people’s behavior if it is hurting others. In a vacuum some degenerate 45-year-old who gets high hurts no one. But let’s be honest, these people drive while they’re high, they steal to get high, they don’t take care of their kids etc. Drug abuse is at the core of inner city violence (I know, I lived in one) teen pregnancy, STD infections, child abuse and a host of other social ills. My point is that we as a society need to stop pretending drug abuse is anything but what it is and start educating our children to realize that even pot can be bad for your mental, emotional and psychological health.
If a person smokes pot and decides to rob a store or hurt a child, their problems are too numerous to claim one of them served as causation for the crime. I’ve smoke pot plenty of times and the dumbest thing I ever did was eat a calzone that contained spiced salami after having been a vegetarian for four months. I got sick for about an hour.
Rob, it sounds to me like you haven’t come to terms with your former drinking since you need to try and talk down on potheads as being so much worse than you. People drinking beer have committed some awfully repugnant crimes and to try and make yourself seem holier than thou because you were a drinker and not a smoker is just pathetic.
A) You just repeated yourself.
B) I’ve never said pot smokers are “worse” than heavy drinkers or any other drug user. Instead of pretending I said that and insulting me why not respond to my main points. People use drugs to lose control, and many people are dangerous when they give in to those impulses that are otherwise controlled sober. I also put forward that heavy use of marijuana has side effects including paranoia, etc. That paranoia may be funny for a couple of years but in 40 year olds not so much.
C) Is it really holier than thou to be against drug use?
And isn’t the above case proof that people over a certain age who keep getting high are losers?
What if he had been caught holding an 8 ounce chocolate milk in one hand and a Twinkie in the other? Would junk food then be reason he assaulted an minor? Get real man.
Really? You don’t see the difference between junk food and drugs?
This type of behavior could EASILY be due to the xanax, which is legal and if taken with alcohol will turn one basically into a zombie. Anyhow Priests molest little boys. Do you think that is from drug use too? I’m sure father o’riley isn’t toking before he’s poking or popping xanax and taking shots
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Don’t be asinine. I never claimed all rapists were pot smokers. I am pointing out that people who use drugs and alcohol to lower their inhibitions do in fact have lower inhibitions which often leads to them doing things that they wouldn’t have done sober.
You’ve been high I’m sure. Do you act the same when you’re high? Do you think the same way? If so why get high at all?
wow okay….it was probably the xanex that made him be Thatway amd he was probably buzzed from alcohol which with
zanex make it a bad night.. and Andy dick is a wierdo he has mental issues just look at him you are basiclly having him as our de facto representative that man does not speak for even 95% of pot smokers.. This is a stupid argument anyone a who wants to molestate a child is a creep and a born molester anyways not because of the weed it’s my choice to smoke weed and I know it’s illegal but all law is not set in stone that’s why America is so great we have the choice to ti do whatever with our body and vote to change laws….and cocaine, heroin, meth, pharmicutical drugs cause todays problems not marijuana do research all you have are isolated incedents not fueled by marijuana butother hard drugs… Congrats you have been successully brain washed by the American government…”standing in line, believing thier lies l, your bowing down tonte flag. You got a bullet in your head” rage afinst the machine
If Xanaex and alcohol can both be partially responsible for people’s actions why not pot?
And since the Victimless Crime File category is pages long these aren’t isolated incidents, but let me ask you this. If pot doesn’t alter you mind and make you think and od things you don’t sober why smoke it?
Getting high is getting high, people do it to lose control. Why do so many pot smokers think being high on pot is different than being high in general?
First of all let’s take a look at what happens to
Your body and brain when you drink. The brain, liver, heart, pancreas, lungs kidneys and every other organ tissue are affected within minutes of consumption. With each drinking episode central nervous sytem functions deteriorate in a predictable sequence begining with intelectuall functions. the brain is the organ most affected by alcohol. three noticeable affects of alcohol injury to the brain: memory loss, confusion and augmentation the latter is when drinkers feel sad or angry with no reason sensiteve to loud sounds and hyper alertness. The central nervous system which includes the brain, when intoxicated affects emotional and sensory functions, judgement memory and learning ability, smell and taste are Dulled and ability to with stand pain increases.Red blood cells clump up together causing vessels to plug up and starve brain and organs of oxygen when intoxicated. It sounds like andy dick was shit faced I am sure he wasn’t enjoying a the wings at 2:00 in the morning at the local bar but a couple of shots. And have you ever heard of synergy? When twosubstances are mixed let alone three the resulting effect might be 5 times more mind altering than just xanex or alcohol or even harmless marijuana. Alcohol was the real reason he gotbin trouble by touching a 17 year old girl who should of been home ready to go I work instead of f&$king around with Andy Dick a freakin wierdo
work cited: the missouri department of mental health division of alcohol and drug abuse
k to all future smokers who think that this is a dumb over complications of a simple answer. Who here loses controll when they get high?? Haha I have been smokin for 4 years and have meet hundred am hundred of people who don’t lose controll when they get high in fact just maybe a small percent like 100 out of 1 don’t like and never do it again because it doesn’t have addicting properties unlike meth, heroine, cocaine, pills, the brain actually has receptors designed to take in THC so in respect evolution prepared us for marijuana and vaporizing weed makes it 75-80% healthier and reduces tar intake. The better it is the less you need trust me bomb bud will getbyou high in One or two hits…. Legalization or even decriminalization will get all the mexican drug cartels out of America that is the number one export and if you have been watchin the news they are starting to kill people inches from our soil and makin our children into soldiers watch lou dobbs I bet you love him…. How did al Capone get rich??!!?!! And kill thousand of people???? PROHIBITION!!!!!
Look up harry anslinger he devoted his life to brain washing Americans and congress to scare people into thinkin marijuana made you crazy it made you kill. They said and I am not lying ” marijuana make a black man stare a white man in the eye it makes him step on a white mans shadow… It make a black man want to fornicate with white women….it makes mexican think they are the president Mexico and execute white men women and children… As a third generation Mexican American that offense me and make my stomach turn ever since those argument where used no one ever question whybthis sacred and harmell plays is made illegal … OBAMA will change that his drug Czar was chief of police of Seattle!!! Like one of the most liberal cities in America eric holder attorney general said they will end federal raid on California dispenseries a major step to decriminalization or even legalization
smoke because after working at my 2 jobs I feel like relaxing marijuana helps me with that it relaxed my muscles
it make forgetvabout my shitty day at work
forget about this depression we are going to be in if the republicans don’t start bieng bipartisian
I don’t like wakin up with a hangover and my mouth tasting like shit
I would rather be in a room full of stoners, calm than a too
full of angry crying fighting drunks
smoke weed because I can quit if HAD to I LOVE smoking weed but I love my job and family more I don’t have to quit for you I quit for my self
Weed bring people together it pacified it’s user
Vaporizine the marijuana is better for your health
I can cook with marijuana
I can smoke it go to sleep withing minutes when I want to fall asleep get a deeper sleep and wake up Refreshed ready for work
Life is about loving the ones close to you not having regrets doing the things you love living laughing and dying with that person that is part of you marijuana is a gift from god now how You live your life is up to you drugs destroy people lives I know my father died when I was 14 from drugs but he loved us all the drugs were just in his chemical make up heroin is the ultimate he grew up in a very bad part of LA in the 60 ‘s I was not even a man yet I I have to live my life how I think a man should live itvi wasn’t told how I be a man I observe and know frommy heart what a man is a molester is a molester since
The day he is born you can’t change it they like it like it is oxygen it itches them thy news help don’t blame it on marijuana
You smoke pot because you need a crutch to go through life because you’re weak. That’s true of all substance abusers, including drinkers. You rant and rave like a five year old because your pot smoking alters your perception of reality.
Al Capone didn’t kill thousands of people, and since you bring it up, did ending prohibition make the mafia disappear?
Life isn’t about living life like a teenager. Marijuana is not a gift from your made up Christian god and pot smokers are burdens. You have two job? Why do you need two? Is one to support your habit or are both so menial that you need to work tow to make ends meet? And in either case maybe you should spend less money on pot and more should go in the bank.
By the way, the depression will be caused by cap-and-trade. The recession was an unavoidable consequence of a fiat money society where people considered debt wealth.
As for the rest. I dare you to re-read what you wrote when you aren’t high then tell me you’re happy being that person.
prohibition ended the market of illegal alcohol which Capone was making millions off of. It didn’t end crime all together resulting with everybody holding hands, laughing and joking around, the mafia was the remenants of the prohibition the need for sex, drugs guns was still in high demand territory was required to distribute they bought off police officer threatened business demanding money for protection. There will always be scum on this earth people are born evil and have followers to listen to thier evil message. And I don’t know why you attack me instead of my ideasis that the tactics you fall back on. in basic English you know that’s not a way to win debates talk shit on my ideas not me if you don’t have anything else to say …. And what is this crutch you speak of can I have an example to what you mean to see If I do have a problem and to see how I am weak?
The mafia to this day has it’s hands in the distribution of alcohol through control of the unions and extortion of nightclubs. Pot dealers will do the same.
I attack your lifestyle because that is what my criticism of drug use is, and attack on a lifestyle that has proven to lead to tragedy after tragedy. You have stated that you need to smoke pot to “relax” after working two hard jobs. I contend that you wouldn’t need to work two jobs if you stopped smoking pot and got control of your life.
So according to your own logic Mr. Taylor and some of the posts above we should outlaw all mind altering and addictive substances? But then what? Many pharmacudicals would have to be thrown out, but if we did that the companies making billions of dollars on drugs and medications would fix this problem with a quick donation to congress would legalize everything back up in hours. Imagine if the drug laws were not created on racism and diluted lies. Yes drugs impare peoples judgement, but so do emotions what, are you going to ban emotions too now? Think ratioaly many times over in this blog it has been proven that alchol is one of the major causes for domestic violence, rape, etc. But what happened when they tried to bring it down? Gangsters made profit. So now it is the same sitution and profits for the drug cartels that have been fighting in Mexico for over a month now are making more money then some governemnts in this free world. They DO NOT want drugs to be leagalized because they would lose too much profit, so yes lets ban all mind altering substances and make a 4 trillion dollar black market, and where do you think money will go? Yes to outlaw all vices so that more money could be made without taxation and regulation. BTW because of mind altering substance topic, have you ever noticed your kids running in circles? spinning in one spot? Humans naturaly want to affect their mind, a 5 year old doesnt know what drugs are, but they ‘ll spin around for hours getting them self dizzy or as you would like to call it “high”…
Look…Andy Dick is a dick…he’s a huge piece of shit that thinks he can get away with anything…and I’m sure he’s tried, if not succeeded, in molesting others…just this time, he got caught and the girl was underage…
But don’t blame pot on this…just because there are a few bad apples out there who happen to smoke, as well as ingest other drugs, doesn’t mean that the drug is bad…just some of the people who use it…
It’s kind of like saying all gun owners are bad when someone goes out and kills using a gun, even though we know that it is few and far between of the gun owners here in this nation…
Oh, and don’t bother to reply to say “ha ha your dumb, you compare one thing that’s not deadly to something that is” or some other sarcastic ass answer, because the very same can be said with all legal drugs, such as alcohol and nicotine…hell, let’s even substitute oreos or cheeseburgers in there…
The only reason marijuana is illegal is because they LOVE making millions annually in court costs and fees. Also, Private correctional facilities purchase prisoners for cheap labor. The corrections system is nothing but a cash cow for local government.
Umm imagine andy dick without the weed dude, he’d be even worse. But then again…is that possible?
Who’s they? The Illuminati? The Trilateral Commission? The JOOOOS?
Marijuana is illegal because high people are a nuisance and sometimes dangerous. It is now proven to have adverse effects on the very young and people predisposed to mental illness.
You get high right? Don’t you get high specifically to “have fun” as in do things you wouldn’t normally do?
Rob, you are truly ignorant.
seriously though, you are very fucking ignorant
and the worse thing is that you are proud of your ignorance
wow dude i think you need a life.. how long were you trolling to find this? you should divert your energies to something worthwhile and meaningful not trying to “parent” people.. cannabis has been proven to have no links to schizophrenia. the percentage of people affected with it has remained at 1%. it brings on other mental illnesses?? if you thought for a second that people self medicate on pot (like myself for anxiety i have trouble winding down.. i could get valium to sleep but this is dangerous) instead of buying addictive pharmaceuticals you would realize that’s why so many people with mental illnesses smoke it. they treat themselves (sometimes unknowingly). people self medicating on pot can be bad because it can delay them from seeing a doctor, this i can see, but to say that cannabis is dangerous is just a lie. it has never killed anyone or anything. the studies on it damaging brain cells used dubious techniques. this is proven (do some research). i don’t know you, but your views are unjustified and damaging. the way you talk of drugs and users shows me who you are. you judge people and think you are better. you might seem better but everybody is different in ways we will never understand. cannabis helps ALOT of people and is proven to be completely safe. instead of digging up random, meaningless stories like this, get to the things that are hurting people, like prohibition, fast food, sugar, alcohol, tobacco, panadol. i have had friends attempt suicide on panadol, and nearly did, my grandma died withered, frail and dejected. if you care so much about people, why don’t you get to the things that are actually proven to kill… or get a life.. peace
“they” are the government and their lobbyists.
lol thought i’d add to as another ball buster to your sexually deprived rant.. i work two jobs and smoke pot and you know how much it costs me? probly 30 bucks a month, i grow it, wow my own medicines growing in my garden.. sucks to be you lolol
Well argued. But I’ll correct you on several points.
1) You say “cannabis has been proven to have no links to schizophrenia. the percentage of people affected with it has remained at 1%.” but that is a fact you pulled out of your ass. The 2005 study presented to the Radiological Society of North America by Drs. Ashtari and Kumra show through imaging that Schizophrenics and chronic pot smokers have very similar brain abnormalities. That study concluded Heavy pot use hastens the onset of schizophrenia in those with genetic predispositions however…
a 2005 study in the British Journal of Psychiatry took Danish patients who had been HOSPITALIZED for Marijuana induced psychosis (which even those free wheeling Europeans admit exists) and found that 50% of them went on to develop schizophrenia. That same year Dr Andrew Campbell of the University of Sydney found that 4 out of every incurable Schizophrenics smoked cannabis on a regular basis between the ages of 12 and 21.
Also in 2005 Fergusson et al found that among New Zealand children followed in a study for 25 years those who regularly used marijuana suffered psychotic episodes and long term mental illness at 150% of non-users.
Again in 2005 a study of Psychiatric Acute Care units by Isaac and Holloway found that more than 70% of admissions used marijuana regularly. Those users’ symptoms of mental illness were more severe and lasted longer. They also were admitted to hospitals at younger ages and were more prone to obesity.
There are more studies, dating back 40 years but I provide you with some recent ones whose conclusions are widely available.
B) You then ramble “if you thought for a second that people self medicate on pot (like myself for anxiety i have trouble winding down.. i could get valium to sleep but this is dangerous) instead of buying addictive pharmaceuticals you would realize that’s why so many people with mental illnesses smoke it. they treat themselves (sometimes unknowingly).”
But you shouldn’t have a problem winding down, and marijuana smoking is likely increasing your inability to function, thus for the past few hours of your life you have been emailing my YouTube account and leaving random comments here attacking me. How has toking up really mellowed you out if at least four or five hours of your night consisted of calling some stranger on the web names? I find it amusing (as do the people I show these comments to) but what is the payoff for you?
C) “people self medicating on pot can be bad because it can delay them from seeing a doctor, this i can see, but to say that cannabis is dangerous is just a lie. it has never killed anyone or anything.”
But people high on pot have killed many people. That’s what this category is about. You treat getting high like it’s taking aspirin, but people who are high do so to lose control and deflect responsibility. It causes criminality, just as people who drink to much often cause auto fatalities, assaults and other crimes.
D) “the studies on it damaging brain cells used dubious techniques. this is proven (do some research).”
Prove it.
E) “i don’t know you, but your views are unjustified and damaging. ”
How so? My views are completely justified because they are based on my experience and the collection of information on the subject. How does advocating sobriety damage anyone?
F) “you judge people and think you are better. you might seem better but everybody is different in ways we will never understand.”
This is drug addled rambling. I am better than a person whose first contact with me is to call me a “Fucking idiot” in all caps or more recently a “faggot” so in what way are you, some douche, better than me?
G)”lol thought i’d add to as another ball buster to your sexually deprived rant.. i work two jobs and smoke pot and you know how much it costs me? probly 30 bucks a month, i grow it, wow my own medicines growing in my garden.. sucks to be you lolol”
How am I sexually depraved? That’s called projection on your part. And if you did work two jobs (which you don’t or you wouldn’t be up in the wee hours harassing me) why would it suck to be me when I work from home and enjoy a fairly easy life. You’re the sucker working two jobs and crying over blog posts. I think it really sucks to be you, and to make yourself feel better you attack people who aren’t as pathetic.
And using the term lol is only acceptable if you’re a teen girl.
thanks dude, you are fucked up.. get a life! cya 😉
and do some research dude, i’m not going to do it for you .. wow a pot smoker telling you to do some work?? wtf !?! and i am using my spare time to prove people like you are just plain ignorant.. you must be 12 because you have the intellect of one.. people like you who have nothing better to do than be a nuisance are dragging down society, you will be uncovered for who you are in time.. peace
also try reading a book dude.. you heard of ben elton? very respected and established author / comedian so it wouldn’t surprise me if you didn’t.. he wrote a great book called “high society”. its a fictional book about legalising drugs in england. it is a good eye opener to drugs and their impact on society and how people like you, who are ignorant and pathetic actually are the cause of some major problems i.e. prostitution, gangs, extremists etc.. ignorance may be bliss but it messes up society .. peace
I list real academic studies and you list a book by a comedian as a counter point? If I argued for an end to slavery would you quote from John Norman’s Gor series? I guess if I claimed pedophilia was wrong you’d qoute Paula Poundstone?
Also England has a violent assault and sexual assault rate higher than most American states, and a multi-generational welfare state. Is that the kind of place you want to live?
And you’re claiming that if we legalized drugs addicts would no longer prostitute themselves? Why? Why not tell me why I’m wrong instead of calling me names? Because you can’t right? You’re just some selfish hippy who hates being told that his childish actions do indeed have repercussions on himself and others.
Re-read your comments and tell me they sound like a stable adult. If you aren’t 14 you shouldn’t be getting high, if you do it says something about you. The fact that it literally angers you to have someone not buy into the fantasy of pot being “good for you” proves you have a problem. You’re like a pill popper who can’t get a prescription filled. Angry, irrational and proof that we need honest education about drugs in this country.
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I can’t believe you guys have kept up this link for over a year……OVER A YEAR! This bonehead twists your words in nonsensical ways. He doesn’t really respond to what your saying and speaks frequently in non sequiturs (I’m sorry Mr. Taylor but you may have to look that one up).
The original, old old, story was about a dick that was molesting a seventeen year old girl and was smoking pot………..sheesh…….so Mr. Taylor deduces that because the guy is smoking pot he is molesting…….and that is the bassis of his argument………that pot smokers are molesters and criminals in general.
And you folks are wasting your time with this “discussion”?? FOR A YEAR???? Forgive me but you should all get a life.
good luck.
Maybe instead of just accepting what high people on a forum claimed I said you should actually read the post. And it is you who should look up “non sequiters” since the amount of time a blog post has been up has no bearing on anything. It is literally “out of left field” so to speak. It is a popular post, and since Red Alerts is a business if I did pick and choose posts to stay up of course I’d leave the high traffic ones up. But like ALL weblogs Red Alerts posts stay up indefinitely until I remove them, and it’s considered bad form to scrub your pasts posts.
I have never said all pot smokers are child molesters, what I have said and continue to say is that people who are high do things they wouldn’t if they were sober, which is why they get high in the first place. Andy Dick doesn’t act like an ass when he’s sober (as most people don’t) but he does when he’s high. In Dick’s case his assholery is borderline criminal.
But the real question is if pot was legal would this have never happened. The crux of all legalization proponents arguments is that legalization will magically cause crime to disappear, when in reality ity will merely reclassify some crimes but behavior like this, which is not rare, will continue. Beyond all the persona insults none of your forum friends have ever really argued that that wouldn’t be true.
And why is my making a living on the web not a “life” but you being an unemployed stoner hanging out on forums is?
Well Rob………I guess you can call running a blog a job……….For the 10 years prior to my present job, I was the manager of a little music store in North San Gabrial Valley near Los Angeles. The store was very successful for what it was…….thriving rental business to local schools and churches……..15 or 16 accredited teachers with 100s of students using our services and buying our stock in guitars, band instruments, music books…..has (the store is still there, though I’m no longer associated with it) a little performance hall in the basement with nationally un-recognized performers……..like Lawance Jubar……..he once played guit for Paul Macartney and Wings……very good player…..most people have never heard of him……… A wonderful place but successful is a relitive term……..we didn’t make a lot of money at it………though doing something that was magical and I thought impacted the world in a positive way………….my kids were getting to high school age and they needed more things than I could supply them with at 22,000.00 a year.
I now am the industrial purchasing agent for a $300,000,000.00 construction supply house………..well it was last year…..no telling where we will end up this year……….I work very hard in a small office trying to keep my mortgage paid by using my mind and knowledge to keep my company buying right so we can sell right.
And I smoke pot.
My kids are out of school now and I miss the store…………maybe I’ll start my own.
What your ignorance incompasses is the way prohibition crushes the asperations of millions of innocent people………Not like mr Dick………..his crimiality is not about his pot smoking…………you stated in your response to my first posting “Andy Dick doesn’t act like an ass when he’s sober (as most people don’t) but he does when he’s high.
A. Do you know Andy?
B.Regardless to your response to #1………… In fact in personal experience all my life, people DO act like assholes ALL THE TIME when not high or WHEN high………the largest factor perhaps being THEY’RE ASSHOLES!
Anyway……..many seemingly normal, christian, straight people SMOKE POT…..and they’re not criminals……….many criminals are not pot smokers.
I’ve spent way too long on this ’cause I think, even if your “just havin’ fun with us” kinda like what big ol’ Rush said he does…….and tryin’ to make living……your doing it by filling the minds of the preponderance of your audience with hate, intolerance and just plain silliness while actual people suffer through the properties of our government being wasted, abused and misappropriated.
Think of how it all could be better used if Marijuana was legalized.
Peace
Can you come back and write that comment in English? I mean really you claim to be some big time business man but you write sentences like “What your ignorance incompasses is the way prohibition crushes the asperations of millions of innocent people” which not only is composed of misspelled and misused words but simply doesn’t make sense.
How does my blog stop people from pursuing their goals (their aspirations) of millions of people? Explain.
If pot was legal, how would it improve people’s lives? Does legal alcohol improve people’s lives?
When did I support (or not support) prohibition. My stance has always been that legalization proponents ignore the real facts about users and how they’re a burden on the rest of us. You don’t work hard, you’re a liar. I know, I have known hundred of pot smokers and there are no chronic smokers who aren’t being cared for by others. Even writers like Andrew Sullivan can barely keep himself together sans his husband, agents and preferential treatment from the cops.
People get high to alter their minds and change their behavior … to that of a 15 year old. Anyone who hasn’t outgrown getting high has emotional and psychological issues. My taxes go to caring for thousands of children of drug users. That wouldn’t change after legalization and I don’t see why you won’t be honest about that.
But I know, rather than argue points you’ll ramble out some more insults (or death threats like your fellow decent pot head emailed me before slapping my link in that forum) because the truth is like any user you’re A) a lair, even to yourself B) selfish and C) haven’t hit bottom yet because of all the people who do take care of the things you don’t. Be honest with yourself, aren’t there some people in your life that do hundred of little things for you while you’re getting high? What will you do when they get sick of it?
firstly….Rob Taylor is a total and complete fucking ignoramous and should just be put out of his misssery with a big old rusty machete to the throte and then spat in the face for being so ignorant. Rob i really do feel sorry for you because you think your the shit and you know it all but truth be told buddy your fucking wrong! and you will live a sad unforfilling meaningless life until you realize that you must allow your beliefs to change as new knowledge is aquired and only then wil you understand uour path in life and it sure as motherfucking pie isnt to sit on a blog all fucking day or night or watever and spread the social decline of ignorance to the masses……..so now that i have sed my say i bid you farewell and as a succecful punk rock musician would do i aslo say….Fuck You Rob Taylor and may you enjoy your sad existance =)
Apparently, it’s rather ironic you are for “free speech”. It’s just only YOUR speech you seem to endorse while you promote this horrible obvious death threat.
Law enforcement officials don’t want pot to be legal because it will stop a lot of food (money) to feed the MONSTER (criminal justice system). That is the only reason it is illegal.
I hope marijuana becomes legal to those that seek it.
Rob, i hope u find that piece of info that seems to be impossible to understand.
if u were going to be mad at something that truly hurts u should redirect your attention to alcohol.
or maybe u hold stock in alcohol/chemical/pharma companies and thats why u are uptight about it….