It was the day of the harridan for Red Alerts, while I was being excoriated in the Dreamin’ Demon forum by one harridan I was receiving a missive on this post about the church-desecrating cretin in Chicago, ostensibly by a friend of one of the little bastard’s family. Both were irritating, and tinged with the sort of liberal racism that boils the blood, but the comment here was so over the top and outrageous that a reply by myself (and my wife) simply wouldn’t do.

Especially since I was planning on taking the day off. Here’s the comment:

Carrie said,

on March 25th, 2008 at 11:13 am

You have no right to blame the parents of any of these individuals, and if you knew the parents of Ryne Ziemba, you wouldn’t. I’m a school teacher who grew up with the Ziemba family, and I can tell you that the Ziembas raised their four children to think and speak for themselves, to be proud of who they are, and to stand up for what they believe in. You have to right to judge these individuals or what their future will be like. Remember the Civil Rights Movement? The Feminist Movement? Where would we be today without people who were willing to take risks and take a stand for a cause they believe in?

Really Carrie? That’s what you did today at 11:13 instead of teaching? I’ll just rebut a point or two that nagged at me ever since I read this boilerplate piece of finger wagging drivel.

1. ” You have no right to blame the parents of any of these individuals.” This is the sort of fascistic nonsense that led to the arrest of these miscreants in the first place. I, and anyone else, have an absolute right to judge any behavior, including the permissive, feel good Dr. Spockery that leads to the fundamental lack of respect for others these six displayed.

My dear Carrie, these people desecrated a church on the holiest day of the Christian year. Politics aside, does this not show a profound disregard for the religion of others? This is elitism at its worse, and where did they learn to be so hateful and disrespectful of Catholics? I’d put forward from their degenerate parents.

But even if I was wrong about that, are you saying I don’t have the right to put forward that opinion? First Amendment be damned I guess, let’s hope you aren’t the Civics teacher.

2. “I can tell you that the Ziembas raised their four children to think and speak for themselves, to be proud of who they are, and to stand up for what they believe in” That sounds great, but they didn’t teach them to respect others or not to bully people. If you can show me how squirting fake blood on a 80 year old usher and ruining the carpet of a church, costing those parishioners thousands of dollars, is standing up for anything beside their hyper inflated sense of self worth and entitlement I’ll withdraw all criticism.

But their actions were the actions of people who were taught they were above others, that other people and their feelings didn’t matter. This was an Easter celebration. I’m no Christian but I could never imagine interrupting another person’s holy celebration to make a political point. That’s because I believe that everyone has a right to have their religious beliefs respected.

Are you saying their parents should be proud of them desecrating a church?

3. “You have to right to (no?) judge these individuals or what their future will be like.” Again I think I have an absolute right to be judgmental. You seem to be saying “Judge not lest ye be judged” which is ironic considering how disrespectful toward Christianity this whole affair was.

Donte Smith has already been duped into going to the Federal pen by White “radicals” who encouraged him to break the law before. Now he’s been arrested again. As a man with a few Black family members who have records I’ll tell you it absolutely will absolutely affect his future in a way it won’t for his rich White friends.

I will also tell you it is at best unseemly for 25 year olds to even be hanging around 18 year olds, much less helping to get them arrested. When I was 25 most of my friends were around … 25. It says something about Maher and Ziemba that they are associating with people that are younger, mainly that they are bit immature. That they are involved in what is basically campus activism rather than writing a thesis or gainfully employed is a good indicator of what their future will be like. Living at home.

But of course you’re not saying my points were wrong, just that I have no right to make them. Again, let’s hope you aren’t a Civics teacher.

As to your point about the civil rights movement, I have to say that this is where you sink to your lowest depths. You dare to compare people affiliated with an organization that supported Milosevic’s genocide, supported the brutal murders of Burmese monks by the communist government and actively protect the Sudan and their genocidal campaign against Black Africans to civil rights protesters?

The struggle for my grandparents to enjoy their full rights as Americans is, to you, the same as a bunch of “peace” protesters who couldn’t be bothered to protest China’s crack down on Tibetans? Who care nothing for the Latino gangs targeting innocent Black Americans in L.A. in a modern day pogrom?

This is the most disgusting tripe I’ve ever heard and indicative of the attitude those horrible parents instilled in those six little bastards who thought desecrating a church was the same as marching for civil rights. If you can’t see the difference between the two you’re either being completely disingenuous or are quite literally an example of the “brain dead liberals” David Mamet wrote about.