The world is weeping over the death of Michael Jackson, a talented pop artist who has been largely irrelevant for at least a decade and used his once great wealth and fame to get away with sexually abusing children. The House of Representatives had a moment of silence for the man who once dangled his toddler over a balcony for laughs, and his sales on Amazon are up over 700%.
That same child who we allowed to stay in a clearly dangerous environment has now been left $500,000,000 in debt by his degenerate father. He did so largely by pissing away a fortune he amassed in his career on an ever escalating childish conceit that he could have anything he wanted, whether it be a private zoo and amusement park, or sex with a pubescent boy. It must be remembered that Jacko paid off families in civil cases for undisclosed reasons, but I once thought only the most naive fan couldn’t put those dots together. It seems I was wrong.
Police are reporting he was “heavily addicted” to Oxycontin and received daily doses of Demerol. There are also reports that Jackson was on other prescription drugs. He was a typical drug addict whose selfish desires outweighed his responsibility to his family, who he’s left basically destitute.
Jackson was himself unaware of how creepy he was. Beyond his clear plastic surgery addiction I remember the most uncomfortable Jackson moment for me was during his interview with Martin Bashir where Jackson, already a suspected pedophile, sat on a couch holding hands with an 11 or 12-year-old boy who rested his head on Jackson’s shoulder the way teen lovers do. Observe and be creeped out:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEewIGvM0rU[/youtube]
In that video you’ll hear a reference to Jackson calling one of his kids “blanket” which though I’m no Freudian I think is a telling slip by a man who likes to have children, other people’s children, in his bed.
Hundreds of Michael Jackson fans are claiming he was an “innocent soul” who “just loved children” and other nonsense. But the reality is that Jackson was a man with a sexual interest in children who is being lionized by people blinded by his fame and wealth. Michael Jackson didn’t go to jail in the 90s because he paid off the family of his victims and made them sign a confidentiality clause. Jackson fans, thoroughly entrenched in the cult of celebrity, maintain that the victims are the villains and even now are vomiting out their poison on the web.
Make no mistake, if Jackson was just some 50-year-old Black man who wanted to “share his bed” with children all these same people would howl with indignation. But because Jackson was famous he has a virtual army of people willing to overlook the truth, abandon common sense and fight tooth and nail for the honor of a man who no rational person could possibly believe wasn’t at least deeply disturbed. These people are no different than Manson groupies, or the women who wanted to marry Ted Bundy. They have no morals and no interest in how badly his victims will feel to see an outpouring of grief for the man who abused them.
Farrah Fawcett, for all her problems, died hurting no one but herself and there was no moment of silence by elected officials. Ed McMahon launched the careers of some of our biggest stars, including Christina Aguilera, Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears, and was an entertainment industry fixture for more than four decades.Yet Timberlake and Spears both have memorials on their sites not to the man who helped launch their careers, but to a man they wouldn’t let be alone in a room with their children.
So you’ll excuse me if I don’t mourn Michael Jackson. He’s no different than any pedophile featured on sites like Absolute Zero United. I will not participate in the second rape of his victims by applauding their rapists, and I feel nothing but contempt for the bleating masses who do.
Bravo.
And where are the moments of silence for the fallen Iranian protesters? The round-the-clock coverage of the members of the military lost in Afghanistan and Iraq this year?
This is truly obscene.
Don’t forget to add that Jackson was helped out by Louis Farrakhan from getting charged on child molestation, along with preventing his stuff from his old Neverland Ranch not being sold off into an auction.
Rob Taylor,
Culturist John, wrote this about Jackson, over at the Infidel Bloggers Alliance,
Michael Jackson, Super Culturist !!
http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2009/06/michael-jackson-super-culturist.html
I didn’t realize at first that he was being sarcastic. Its a good thing that he was.
Thank you for putting this into words Rob. I’ve been trying to hold back the sick with all the MJ idolatry the last couple days.
I’ve been having loads of fun messing with the Jacko fans over on YouTube. There’s only one thing about it. Most of what I say seems to go right over their heads. But what can you expect?
Rob, thanks for posting this. All this BS being spewed about his being an “innocent soul”, and the ridiculous amount of media coverage just make me sick. And watching that video clip made me throw up in my mouth.
You know, Farrah’s death could have been used to raise awareness for a serious illness to help gather support for finding a cure. But no…. it’s getting buried in all this rubbish, as are the problems in Iran, Afghanistan, and Iraq. WFT is wrong with people?
Boo friggin’ hoo… a sick child molester is dead. Waaah! He probably overdosed. Maybe in this way he can be a role model for child rapists everywhere.
I think I need to take some time off. I’m starting to become bitter…
Great analysis Rob. Jackson was a product of an abused childhood that filled him with self loathing. This led him to mangle his own face with needless plastic surgery, and his arrested development, evidenced by his high-pitched voice, mentally led him to create an imaginary children’s playworld where he viewed himself as the Faerie King. Jackson’s personal nightmare is now over, as he was euthanized by his personal doctor. Put down like a sick cat.
Heads up, Michael Jackson might have faked his death. I have the video, taped from an early morning CNN broadcast (which has not since been repeated) that purports to prove it.
If this is true, this is big.
Wow.Do you people hear yourselves?You sound like a bunch of people with white sheets on your head at a lynching.You should all fall down on your knees and pray for forgiveness, right now.To speak ill of a man that the world loves.At the same time you talk about a war,that I am sure that you all believe in that too.The world is falling apart at the seams because the true DEVIL is controlling your minds.You look at the media and take it word for word as the law.That is why they always say maybe,might have ,it is possible to believe and other uncertain terms,because the are speculating everything that they say.There is no fact at all in the media.That is why, unless they say that it is confirmed that…..,then I do not even hear them.No one here has stated one fact.You are all jumping on him,but what about the parents of these so called victims.Why are these parents taking money.I have 4 children and no money in the world could settle my heart.Jail or death and that is it.As far as this poor Jordan Chandler,he is living very well in L.I in a 2.5 million dollar home with his father and owns multi million dollar condos in Manhattan.Now ,that is a fact. Why didn’t his father take the money and donate it to abused children.The boys mother even said under oath that her son was not molested.Doesn’t that count for anything.And if you do a search on Jordan Chandler, he was heard saying “If I win this, I am paid”. Now he is taking back all that he said about Michael Jackson.And as far a Louis Farrakhan, you people have got to be kidding me.What the hell does he have to do with Michael Jackson?Because they know each other, that makes MJ guilty too? Please people ,stop it.Stop judging this man.He is being judge right now,by a being that is more important that all of us.What you should be worried about is if you are without sin and are going to make it through into “heaven”.That is what should be on your minds.By the way that you are all talking right now,hopefully if you start praying now,you might have a chance when it is your time.I am sure that is more important than trying to tarnish a man over media rumors.He has done more for this planet than all of you put together ever could in your entire lifetime ,and that is a true fact.Can any of you deny his humanitarianism? Can any of you deny his great music?Can any of you say for a fact that he is not a great performer?NO,you can not.You need to get your “FACTS” straight.The fact is that he was acquitted by a jury of his peers,that is also factually.Not media hype of hear say,but Factual.So for all of you that feel that people like me should get a grip.Who really has the grip and who doesn’t? The people that live off of hate and hear say, or the people that believe in love and actual facts?Think about that and God Bless you all,you are going to need it.
Since I’m bi-racial your white sheet insult is just nonsense, and proof that you’re a hysterical groupie with no real argument to make. You should be asking the children he RAPED for forgiveness; you should be ashamed for allowing a man’s wealth and fame to blind you, the way that Golden Calf blinded the Israelites in that Old Testament you’re pretending to be so fond of, to his degeneracy and evil.
He picked poor people to abuse then bought them off with more money that they can hope to make. The PARENTS decided it would be better to ensure their children’s economic future, so the CHILDREN are liars? You’re a vile woman.
Would you have left your child alone with this wonderful man? A man who was filmed dangling a baby over a balcony? A man who was filmed cuddling on a couch with a 12-year-old boy? A man who was claimed that grown men SHOULD be sleeping in bed with unrelated children?
Would you let any man who believed the same that wasn’t Jackson? You’re not a fan of Jackson; you’re worshipful of him like a god. His humanitarianism? Giving money to charity is little more than a PR stunt for the super rich. His great music? When I was nine I thought his music was great, but like his image and sexual deviancy his music was marketed to children and those who act like them.
Hey, don’t you have a serial killer to defend? Maybe you have to slap around you kid because they’re “lying” about your new great boyfriend named snake molesting her? But for someone who is clearly wiling to allow someone to have inappropriate relationships with children because he’s a “great performer” to lecture us on morality is just outrageous.
You know that if there’s a Hell Jackson and you are going there right?
Kelly, why do you and similar racialist collectivists excuse Michael Jackson’s bad behavior throughout his life? If he were white and did those things would you still care about his music and celebrate him like a he’s some sort of a God?
Never said that he was a god.I know exactly who my Lord and savior is,Jesus Christ.Secondly,as far as leaving my children with a man,no,I would not leave them with any man.,I am married to their father a, a brilliant man and wonderful provider.That is besides the point.I am a great mother and I would not let my children go with anyone,no matter how much money they have,and no,not even to secure their financial future.You say all of these children.Please name just one.Give me one name.Can you do that?Or is it safe to say that the media has not given you anyone to feel sorry for.Do some research and then give me a name.Please do not use Jordan Chandler either.He already admitted lying.He says that his father made me do it.Whatever.Now,imagine if you were a teacher and a child told their mother that you hit them because they did not like, and you lose your teachers license and your job,401k, and then your family.Does that make you a child abuser in the worlds eyes.Yes,but are you.I guess it does not matter if it is true in your eyes,because everyone already thinks that you are guilty,even if the kid says that he was lying.It happens all of the time.It is just a shame that you guys here the media speak and you take the ball and run with it.Just sit back for a second and think, “what if he did not do it”.Then is he still a monster and all of his billions of fans idiots and all of the other names that you people have come up with.You say that he has this life time ,bad behavior.I only see what the media says he did.I will not say that he was not different,but that is what makes us all unique.We are not all the same.We do not all agree with everything.But according to you’ll, that makes MJ fans dumb and stupid and rapists and all of these other things.I remember a few other people in history that felt that if we all did not look like them then we should all be dead.That is what all of you people sound like.As far a your serial murder,I do not understand of whom you are speaking .The man was acquitted,let’s remember that.Have you ever been accused of anything that you did not do, in your whole life.How did you feel?As far as him being white and doing all of these things.If they could prove it,then I would definitely be upset.I am far from a racist.I am just fair.I just think that instead of bashing this man,you should just let him be and let those that want to mourn him do so without ridicule.Just like you all have a right to our opinion.We have a right to mourn,him without you type of judgmental people saying these evil things about them.Feel the way that you’ll feel and we will mourn the way that we choose to.I bless his soul and I hope that God is more forgiving than you people since he is the actual judge and jury.Our opinion means nothing.I hope that we all can agree on that..I am signing off.May God be with you all.Take care.
You want the names of the victims? Why? So you can stalk and harass them like the insane pedophile groupie you are?
Only the most wicked and evil person would demand to know the names of molestation victims so they can attack those people.
As far as “only God” being able to judge people, shall we empty the prisons? Should we let all the murderers, rapists and pedophiles out? After all they were judge by man…
Never said that either.There you go with the name calling.I would never hurt a child.I bring life into the world and have done so 4 times.I would like to know if you know any of the names.Do you have proof.You are saying that he raped these children ,like you know all of them.That is why I asked.Of course I would not like them exposed.Secondly, I am not a stalker groupie.I am a person with a lot less hate in my heart than you.Can we agree on that.You are just saying things off the top of your head,but none of it is fact.Names never bothered me.My mother taught me that.I see that your mother never told you that if you do not have anything nice to say,then do not say anything at all.I also never said that the prisoners should be let out of prison.They were tried and convicted by a jury of their peers.They had concrete evidence that they did something wrong.That is why they are in prison and MJ was not.Get it?So you can name call all that you want and spew hate and anger and call me evil,but the fact still remains that BILLIONS of people all over the world still love him, regardless what you believe.Just turn on the TV and embrace it like the rest of us.Don’t stop til you get enough!!Now I am going to go and enjoy the BET awards,because they are paying homage to him this evening and I want to be part of it.That is Black Entertainment Television for those that do not know.By the way for the young lady that asked if he were white,would I feel this way.I have a question for you.If he were white would YOU feel this way?I am sure that you would not.Good night and enjoy all of the Michael Jackson coverage that your media is presenting for the next few weeks.Remember,innocent until proven guilty not the other way around.God Bless.
You’re hurting the children he raped now.
And you are a groupie, a sad little woman whose entire identity rests on defending the indefensible because you’re so invested in some celebrity that you equate criticism of the horrible things he’s done with a sin.
Get help.
Kelly-
I hate to break it to you, but let me give you a clue. Who owns NBC, CBS, and ABC, in addition to all the cable news networks, etc? Do a little research. Who are the major shareholders in these companies, and what are their parent companies? It’s not that hard to do. For example, the parent company of ABC is Disney. Get it? Now, look into how many of these people are major investors in Michael Jackson’s music, in one form or another. Either the investors as groups or individuals, or perhaps the parent companies, are owners of Jackson’s recording company, or possibly his publishing company, or maybe in some cases, the radio stations that are as we speak pumping his music out 24/7.
“Don’t stop till you get enough”? Eeerrr, I think we’ve all had quite enough by now, thanks ya srsly much. Don’t look now, but somewhere over the rainbow some little kiddles might be diddled by a kinda weird looking scarecrow, and the great Oz sees it all.
But hey, who knows, maybe Allah, in his infinite mercy, is as we speak preparing a giant bed for Michael to spend an eternity in surrounded by seventy-two little virgin boys, in a giant bedroom that looks out on a magic flowing river of Jesus Juice. I’m sure you’d be happy for him.
you guys are still not talking facts.Just a lot of maybes and might haves,but no facts.Remember he has a family and children as well.Let us not forget that they are in mourning as well,by the way,that is a fact as well.Give me some fact and them I will hear you.Until then ,it is all opinion and assumptions.My concern is not what the Lord has in store for him.That is between them.I am just happy that there was someone positive that entertained me since I was 3 years old.That is all.Not building a shrine or praying to false gods.Just mourning the death of someone that I thought was special,despite what the media said about him.I know for a fact that he made great music and was a great entertainer.You can not take that away from him.All the hate in your hearts can not change that.You know what you’ll should do?Instead of voicing your opinion on the internet,go out on the streets,like to the Apollo theater or some other venue and rally for those imaginary children that you have proof that he raped and see how far that gets you.Everyone is really gangster when no one knows who you are,but you’ll should speak up and out to the live public about your convictions.I will be out the speaking out for what I feel.Good luck with that.That will settle things really fast and in a hurry.I do not need anything broken to me,or anything like that I am not living in a dream world of fairytales and unicorns.I am a realist and I know that until there is hard evidence,then my opinion stays the same.He is a great artist and that is final.So you guys can go back to loving Elvis or Hitler or whomever you choose,but I believe in what I say and I will back it up until I see hard evidence to shut me down,not a bunch of name calling and assumptions.Remember,he has a mother that is hurting right now.At least have some compassion for her.Remember this,”If you can not stand for something,then you will fall for anything”.Trust and believe that is the truth.Now I have to tuck my children in and say our prayers.Goodnight all.I will follow up tomorrow.Thank you for the great conversation by the way.
to Rob.By the way,I base my identity on being a strong educated African American woman, great mother,wife,daughter sister, friend and a child of God.That is my identity.I have nothing to hide.There is nothing but love in my heart and kindness in my soul.I have struggled and I have been blessed.That is who I am.Look inside yourself and find your identity.Then judge the world. Even thought that position has been filled by someone much more qualified than you,(GOD),despite what you think.Look in the mirror and see no fault or sin and then if you can be honest with yourself and see none,then you are on the right path to spirituality.
In other words, pedophilia is O.K with you.
convicted pedophile yes.Rumored pedophile,I would like to be sure,before I ruin someones life.Especially since 2 of the victims already admitted to lying about the whole thing..He was a target.I see that we definitely have a huge difference in opinion.You are very judgmental and I like to know the facts before I make any form of accusation.Just because some likes scary movies does not mean that they want to kill people.I never said that I loved the way MJ lived his life.I said that I love his music and that he was a great entertainer.If you look in the Guiness Book you will see for a fact that he donated more of his money and time to charity than an any other celebrity in history.That is not just to little boys,but to families all over the world.That has to mean something.When is the last time you gave of yourself?If he had body dismorphia or he needed painkillers because he had such a stressful work schedule,that is his life and I am not going to judge him for that.I aam sure that you take asprin and other pain medication.Does that make you an addict.He was human,he just had access to a different lifestyle than we all did, and I do not mean access to children.You continue to say that I am a pedophile,groupie and all of these things,but you do not even know me,you are judging me because I enjoy an entertainer.That shows that you are judgmental and you believe that your word is law..You are probably some little pimple face fat kid that lives in his parents basement.See,I can do it too,but that is me judging you.I do not know you.I agree with your convictions about pedophilia.How could I not?I am a mother of 4 and an aunt of 10.I say castrate them all,but prove it first.That is all that I am saying.Now remember,this man was extremely famous and his children may be surfing the internet and see all of the hateful things that you all have to say about their father .Is it fair to them that they have to live like that.Especially when it is an opinion and not a fact.His children are real,not a rumor.I think that they deserve some respect as well.They lost their father.
Wow, Kelly, I couldn’t even read through your tripe. Really.
You seriously need to do some real research on the tactics of pedophiles and get a clue. MJ’s actions were classic grooming tactics used by pedophiles, only he had the money to get away with it and to pay off the families of his victims. He was a disgusting, vile creature and the world (children, in particular) are better off without him.
Children are more important than the world’s view of this vile creature. You purport to be Christian, then act like one! Stop being an enabler! Maybe doing some research on the effects of child sexual abuse would help.
Do you believe that he was abused as a child.Mentally and emotionally.So you are stereotyping him.So it is not fact at all.It is all opinion and stereotyping.So if you see me on the street in my sweats and a baseball cap on, I guess that I am just an angry black woman from the projects with 10 kids on welfare.I could never be a minister with a degree in child psychology,living in a million dollar home driving a benz,or could I? since we are going on stereotypes.I have a question,where were these childrens parents,while they are spend nights in a mans bed? Where is all of the security,maids, housekeeping,his children,entourage among other people that seem to always be around him?Why would all of these adults that seem to always pop up with stories about him on through the media.If the world knows that this man is so sick,why would they continue to bring their children around him? Can someone please say something factual and not opinionated? That is why there was insignificant evidence against him.No one had proof.It was just made up stories to get money. Please prove that he did it.You are all assuming from what you all heard in the media.
I mean please.I have a play yard,I have children in my house all of the time.I have children and their friends come over daily to play and play in the pool and do have sleepovers and whatever else children do.
does that make me a child molester?
Oh please, even his own siblings Latoya and Jermaine have said that his own family believed he was guilty at times. They flipflopped a lot because of their greed when it came to MJ’s wealth, but their past statements remain.
His behaviour was classic pedophilia with the usual “I would never harm a child”. Of course not, in his deranged mind this was perfectly normal.
Neverland was a kid-trap (from which parents were banned), where the kids had fun and got presents all the time, which made it emotionally difficult for them to refuse what Jacko asked (guilt the kids, another common trait).
One of the worst and yet overused excuses of wacko jacko’s fans is to blame the parents. I agree that it is despicable to basically pimp one’s children for cash and that they should be punished for that, but it “only” makes accomplices of the rapist, and their lack of credibility should not automatically invalidate the kids’ words. It is undoubtly very difficult for molested children to speak, and being accused of lies is like being raped a second time. The parents knew that something would happen (how many rich stars do you know of in Hollywood who were “falsely” accused of child molestation?Several times?) that would give them leverage for a big settlement and Jacko simply couldn’t help luring little boys, most of whom were ill and/or poor, into his bed despite the risks. But how many of these children never spoke and how many cash offers were accepted that we don’t know of?
What I have always found fascinating with that freak is how his physical appearance seemed to adapt to his mental state. The outer self reflected the inner self, which was that of a monster.
Kelly-Like I said I’m half Black and all my readers know it so stop trying to turn this into a race issue. it isn’t, it’s an issue of whose word you take as true, children who say they’ve been victimized or the rich guy who paid off their parents so he wouldn’t have to go to court.
Your claim is that if someone says they were raped that that in and of itself is “insignificant” which is an immoral and disgusting position to take, especially when you’re talking about children.
Stan-That’s a good point.
You should look at the venomous comments Jacko’s fans are putting on youtube for the “Living with Michael Jackson” documentary.
Martin Bashir did not force MJ to say anything, he was not to blame for Wacko Jacko digging his own grave. Yet the delusional Jacko horde spits at him and some even want him dead. With such stupid people, no wonder Jacko was always provided with fresh meat, and with these people I bet it was free!
I don’t doubt it. Celebrity worship in our culture is completely out of control.
I hear you guys.I am finished debating.It was definitely fun though,sharing our opinions.In the end,I hope that everyone is comfortable with their decisions in life.That is all.God Bless and enjoy.Take care.
Kelly,
You’re the kind of person whom would defend MJ for whatever reason. You’d throw ad hominen attacks toward anyone whom disagrees with you about MJ, trying to play the race card or some other BS.
Really, I find this comparable to the same kind of defense of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad having “no” genocidal intentions toward israel…even when you don’t seem to care that leaders like Ahmadinejad have obvious bigotted hatemongering fellow travelers:
http://leftienazis.blogspot.com/2009/06/anti-jewishanti-semitic-attack-file_29.html
you guys are ignorant…last time i checked only god could judge so who the fuck are you to judge him. you don’t even know him, never have, your so stupid to believe whatever you read insist of actually putting yourself in someone elses shoes. he was abused as a child mentally and physically, did not get a childhood,and all his life people used him for money, the media, those children and their parents, and his own family. he hated himself so much because of all the abuse by his father that physically change his appearance so he could look nothing like his father. he was robbed of a childhood so yes he befriended children, i do think it was unapprociate to sleep in the bed with them, but people get real those parents used that against him to get money, which is why it was never proven and more children, even celebrity children came out and said he never touched them, those 2 children parents put them up to that lie to get money…thats all, which is why those children are now admitting they lied, its to late now. this man reached so much success in his life and could never enjoy it its sad. he was always being used, abused, and talked about. its sad. well i am a fan of mj and so is the rest of the world so you judgemental loser get a life, you are probably broke and uneducated and will never be no where near as successful and talented as mj. go get a shink and stop talkin shit about what a dead man not or may not have, you don’t fuckin know if he did it or not. your a pussy behind a computer talking shit about a dead guy, your so accomplished…lol. beside he who have not sinned let him cast the first stone…i am pretty sure you all have sinned and all sins are equal in the eyes of god who is the only one who can judge mj and me, not you pussy ass loser talking shit about a dead guy. if you were raised like him or went though have of the shit he did you would have probably died long before he did. he was troubled, yes, but his was no child raper, and at least give him his peace in death since he was found NOT GUILTY anyways and open your minds to somethings before you open that ignorant hole in your face or type with your crusty ass finger rude shit about someone you don’t fucking know..
RIP MICHAEL JACKSON love you and hope you can finally have the peace in death that these ignorant loser never let you have in life. I hope they die someone will piss on the grave and talk shit about them and their children can read it while mourning their deaths
If only God can judge shall we empty the prisons?
I think it’s funny that people think Michael Jackson actually raped children with cancer. Just open your mouths wide and take whatever the TV tells you is the truth. Mmmm just eat it up. Om nom nom nom. Good little sheep
Right, grown men sleep in the beds of children and get filmed snuggling on the couch with them because they aren’t perverts? It must be awesome being so smart you can tell the difference between people who do what pedophiles do and actual pedophiles, all based on how rich they are.
I fuly support Kelly, I do not believe he molested those children. If my son was molested I would push for charges. Do you not think it is surprising that many cases were able to be bought off?
Also, have any of you read about research into the suggestibility of children?
Many studies have conducted experiments whereby the children have been asked if “bla” has touched them here and here (indicating private areas). Children have said no. Parents have asked again, they have said no. When asked a further time, they said yes. They were also given anatomically correct dolls to show where they had been touched at which point they poked their fingers in the holes.
The interaction with the man was set up and recorded. he touched only their stomach, listened at their chest and tickled their feet. Many child abuse cases come from the suggestibility of children, because when repeatedly being asked the same question, they begin to think they are getting the answer “wrong” and give you what they think you want to hear.
This in no way excuses real child abuse cases. do not misinterpret what i am saying.
Yes Michael was weird, and yes he had an abused childhood. I would argue that yes he was over friendly with children, but probably not sexually. Especially when you consider how much of a clean freak he was. I must say, he dedicated much of his time and money doing things for children, which probably reflects a desire to make sure that those kids never felt the way he did. Many extended families have kids and older relatives sharing beds, and not always relatives. If I had a scared child at mine, sure id throw him/her in my bed, kids get comfort from adults. This is in no way sexual, but a purely maternal/paternal instinct.
Some of the things he may have done we cannot excuse for instance the alleged “jesus juice.” But I do not think he abused those kids, because no real parent would take that kind of payout without seeing the man really suffer for what he has allegedly done to their children.
I think the parents have heard about some things, misinterpreted it, asked the kids over and over again until they say yes, at which point other parents have done the same. Because michale already happens to have a reputation for being weird, people are more readily going to accept the stories.
He also made a huge contribution to music, music that many people still listen to today (that is before his death). So most are not mourning a peadophile, which i dont think he is, they are mourning a music icon. Elvis died of an overdose, we mourned him as a king – for his contribution to music. We are doing the same for Michael because of his contribution to music.
and if he did molest those kids, why was he found not guilty? not enough evidence? Faulty evidence? or are we going to go so far as to conspiricise (not sure if this is a word) a completely corrupt jury?
If OJ killed Nicole why was he found innocent? Are you claiming every rich person who gets a good lawyer is innocent?
And Jackson targeted poor and desperate families. If someone asked you not to testify against them for 10 million, and you knew that was the closest your kid would ever get to having a good life you’d be tempted too. But what’s more maybe the parents are bad people. I have plenty of crime stories where a mother ALLOWS some dude to rape her kids for less than ten million. Or are those kids lying too?
Why not just admit that you simply don’t care if those kids were molested?
Funny, I WAS abused as a child. I do care. and Money does not equal a good life. maybe an easier one, but not a good one.
Also I presented a very valuable argument worth consideration, your response to the argument is that i need to admit i dont care if the kids were molested?
Your argument fails. Your only valid response to a valid idea presented against yours is the classic emotional fall back.
Not all abuse cases are actually abuse. Maybe you should look into the research before you shoot down my theory?
Heres a suggestion “Childrens Thinking ; cognitive development and individual differences” by David F. Bjorklund. Around page 281 onwards. It will also give you studies that have prooved the theory of memory representation and how malleable childrens memories are to suggestibility.
Read it before you reply otherwise you risk ignoring a very valuable point. At which point your argument is pointless and you should not bother raising it if you do not know enough of the counter argument to correctly rebut it.
Your clearly a college freshman, because this is psychobabble in it’s most basic form. Your supposedly valid argument is one used to disprove suspicious cases like the McMartin pre-school case, where small children (between 3-6) were led by over zealous Social Workers to make false charges of Satanic Ritual Abuse, but the Jackson victims were much older. His little “boyfriend” in the video above is almost 13. They are not being “led” be questioning. You’re reaching.
Because you’re emotionally invested in proving that your favorite “musician” isn’t a disgusting pervert.
Thanks for your concern trolling, but I have a Masters. Your suggestion that I should “educate” myself by reading papers (which are not accepted as truth. Papers like this are written all the time, it’s the academic system) that you mistakenly think support your point isn’t just arrogant, it’s telling.
Would you have let MJ sit on the couch with your child like that in the above interview?
I am currently studying for my Masters thank you very much, in fact, in Psychology would you believe, Clinical Psychology. NOT a freshman. And if these papers are not correct, then why are they published in accepted journals, in fact why are they taught?
He actually is not my favorite musician if you must know, but I stumbled across this site and could not believe the way you simply criminalise the population of “masses” who are mourning his death. They have every right to mourn for the loss of a musician who contributed immensely to music.
It seems obvious that any argument against yours is going to be shot down as invalid or “psychobabble.” Well I guess the way you see it the 3 quarters of the world, who are mourning his death, “have no morals and no interest in how badly his victims will feel to see an outpouring of grief for the man who abused them.” What about the families of murderers who mourn the death of the murdering member? does this make them just as bad in your eyes?
Oh and i notice you also resort to childish name calling?
Again, the ideas I presented were valid, but you have a masters and you know better right?
Continue with your name calling, and shooting down of valid arguments, but it wont get you anywhere.
And no I probably wouldnt let him sit like that, although I havent actually watched the video. But that does not mean that I would accuse him of raping my child either.
In fact, if the parents are letting this happen, as you have said, and as this public viewing suggests, then are they not also participating in the second raping of their children? I mean hell, we mourn Michael we are participating, the jurors have participated, the parents who took money have participated, the people who have taken their kids to neverland have participated, hell even those who have gone out and bought his records/dvds/cds? It seems in your eyes were all second time rapists!
And you say I am reaching. You seem to forget that the population has a right to mourn whoever they like, and a right to acknowledge the loss this is to the music industry, somthing you have failed to see.
A) Are you claiming that by nature of appearing in academic journals theories are made true?
B) Perhaps since your in grad school you should learn what the word “criminalize” means before throwing it around.
C) Three quarters of the world mourn ether Mohammad or Marx as well. Am I to think better of them because they outnumber me? Isn’t the true test of morality to stand for what’s right even if you’re in the minority?
D) Criminals families that mourn do so in private, and in most case with the acknowledgment that the person they mourn was flawed, did horrible things etc. You and other groupies (before you pretend you aren’t a huge fan refer to your other comments) are literally attacking his victims and excusing behavior you wouldn’t allow anyone else to get away with. You never answered my question. If the child in the video above was yours would that be acceptable?
E) The parents are bad parents. I’ve never said otherwise. Does that mean the children aren’t victims?
F) I’ve never said you don’t have a right to mourn anyone, but you also don’t have a right to be free from criticism for your actions.
For some reason, people tend to lump children in as extensions of their parents, and therefore any suffering the child endures at the hands of abusive or negligent parents is deserved or “not my problem”. What a crock of shit that is.
No child deserves any less protection from me than my own, whether they be my neighbor’s child or a child that lives across the country. Protecting children is the responsibility of everyone, and abusive adults need to be called on their actions and pay the price for what they do. Any adult who lets them skate for any reason is just as guilty for that child’s suffering.
The ONLY thing worse than MJ, is –
anyone defending his homosexual liasons with janitors,-
and his incredibly high profile pedophilia
I don’t care about the drug addiction or the plastic surgery!
Hopefully ,now that, gratefully ,he’s dead
the truth will come out about what a real MONSTER he was ,is ,and will always be!!!!
I hope he can’t moonwalk his way out of Hell!!
those boys were probably bigger and heavier than mj. crap he raped them he was asexual at best. mentally repressed at worst. thats the thing the mystery about him i am sorry but he is the modern day myth we will ever see. get over it. so angry that a black in being worshipped by the world. so funny he said he was invincible even in death he proved that he was off the wall a thriller bad dangerous and just irresistible. mysterious wow.crazy looking but irresistible and irreplaceable.
Since I’m black your race baiting makes no sense. Since I’m an adult I don’t see the allure of his “music” which I too enjoyed … when I was 12. More importantly since I’m not a disgusting rape apologist I don’t make excuses for child sexual exploitation. By your logic fat women can’t be raped and 11-year-olds who “consent” to sex aren’t being taken advantage of.
I’d argue with you but since I’m sure you’re probably just a child molester like Jackson I’ll just ban you.
I think you guys are a bunch of white supremacists. You guys can’t stand anyone that’s successful so always find a reason to hate on someone….
I’m Black moron.
Michael Jackson, was in my opinion innocent. I have around 3 years of research into this opinion.
Google isn’t research. Jackson was a pervert. Use your fucking head moron. You’re an adult male – would you be filmed by a TV crew snuggling with an 11-year-old like he was your girlfriend?
Google isn’t research.